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Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by saintpreaks, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. saintpreaks

    saintpreaks Member

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    I am not proficient in English, so I use a translator. Despite its limitations, I am trying my best. I am very interested in the various methods discussed by Sputnik on this forum. However, due to my lack of proficiency in English and math, I am using his strategies incorrectly. He has mentioned that my current level makes it difficult to have a meaningful conversation with him. Therefore, I seek advice from others. While self-improvement is crucial, I believe that sharing ideas can also lead to improvement and progress. After all, there is no holy grail, and we are not enemies.I bet with the sequence 3(bbb+, ppp+) 3(bbb+, ppp+), and the patterns 21 / 12 / 112. However, I fail when sequences like 1 1 1 1 / 1 1 1 2 / 1 1 1 1 1 appear.I see potential for profit with this method, but I want to make some improvements. Do you have any good suggestions? Or what should I study to reduce my losses?
     
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    I would help, but I my hands full with competence in the game. I 'know' more than ever, but have difficulties with discipline. When I first started playing we had some more normal times, but specifically since 2019 the news and economic conditions have been crazy which is a big part of everything AND this will only continue to get worse.

    A limited single buy-in and sound progression are a good start to limiting losses. I am also considering the shield concept. A shield is a protection where you say 3 or 4 losses in a row then require 1 or 2 virtual wins to get back into the game. So far I like 4 losses and then 2 virtual wins. I also have looked at getting crushed by 7 or 8 out of the last 10 hands to leave the shoe no matter what.

    The worst part for me is that all my best play has NEVER included writing jack down and now I am supposed to be some writing down bro because my favorite progression has a look back to previous chips/ P&L. Really everyone should just come up with a way, play it blind with full trust, and it either wins/ loses and go home. Then you can review and evaluate how it fared. That is where the limited single buy-in comes in. This is supposed to be like a job.
     
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    As for understanding other's approaches, just try to go back to the first posts and carefully write everything out again. If it is still not making sense IDK, but I would say it is not a language/ translation issue.

    Every selection will have weaknesses because they are geared to capitalize on other conditions.
     
  4. saintpreaks

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    I posted this under a thread about Jay Silva, and netizens were not entertained as in the movie 'Gladiator':

    - Majority of the last 5 - Bank/ Player.
    - Consideration of Terrible 2s or not at all.
    - A competitive progression.

    YouTube under Jay Silva's channel: You Will Beat the Casino 100% guaranteed.
    This video was posted 6 years ago and has been up all this time so everyone is still welcome to review it along with countless hours of his other content. As with most of it though, it is not all of a certain approach.

    ^
    ...why don't you practice 10 full baccarat shoes selecting Bank/ Player based on the majority of the last 5, using any progression, and see what you get?
     
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    Continue tracking the 3-3 add dbl decision before last. Simple trend both looking for follows, singles and dominations in the bet selection.
    Add a six line grid of ffcfcc first line and each consecutive start the line one decision later. You now have six competely different data streams plus the 3-3 and the dbl. Follow and chop patterns perform completely different that banker and player patterns. We could sit for a while and discuss why but what would be the point. The ffcfcc grid with the 33 and dbl are what I'm currently flat betting with a hit it and quit style. Win one to five and cash in...... Can play whole shoes this way but don't have the patience or desire to. Remember you don't have to bet every hand and if you don't see it don't bet it.....
     
  7. cps10

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    Repeat and Change are two powerful variables to use within the Player and Banker.

    B
    P <- change
    P <- repeat
    P <- repeat
    B <- change

    CRCR is a string that you can bet for or against. You can do this as well with balanced and unbalanced. Tons of variables you can use like what the Porky says. You just need to pay attention. It’s not that difficult.
     

  8. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Porky, Can u illustrate with an example, by playing a part of shoe, & filling of grid, thanks
     
  9. saintpreaks

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    Thank you. I know that pattern is a good method. I appreciate your kindness. I am researching ways to make it easier to recover when I fall into a losing streak.
     
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    I'm sorry, but could you please explain with a simple example? I'm asking earnestly
     
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    Just go watch this and then you can come back to continue with other selection ideas. Majority/ Strong Side of the Last 5 Decisions means looking back at the last 5 hands and going with the strongest side. In the example you posted if you let the first 3 hands start you have B B P so then you would go Bank.

    - Majority of the last 5 - Bank/ Player.
    - Consideration of Terrible 2s or not at all.
    - A competitive progression.

    YouTube under Jay Silva's channel: You Will Beat the Casino 100% guaranteed.
    This video was posted 6 years ago and has been up all this time so everyone is still welcome to review it along with countless hours of his other content. As with most of it though, it is not all of a certain approach.
     
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    Thank you, I'll test it out, and I hope it goes well.
     
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    I have a question. When you review the results of the last 5 hands, do you include the result from my most recent bet, or do you exclude it and look at 5 others? Even though it's random, I'm curious."

    last5 BBPPB my bet - B

    next last5 BPPBB ?
     
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    It shouldn’t matter either way. In both cases it’s B anyway to bet.
     

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    These things are up to you. Some people play the first hand, wait for 3 hands, wait for 5 hands in practice or real at the beginning of a shoe. The idea is to look back a certain number of hands and figure which side won more. In my practice even though 5 is the advised number of hands to look at, I start after 3 hands.

    So you can try 3, 4, 5, 7, etc. and see what happens each way.
     
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    For instance let’s say you have

    B
    B
    P
    P
    B

    B is the majority so bet B. If P comes up, your majority is now P so bet P. And then you can either track five more hands or just use the previous five. It’s up to you to see which works best for you. Personally I’m looking for a $100 unit. If it happens in the first bet, I’m getting up and taking a break.
     
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    It's working until it doesn't....
    You have to find a strong dominant side
    3 against 2 says nothing...

    This is my experience
     
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    It's just one thing to look at out of a SYSTEM. Funny how the exact opposite selection in the example goes 13W - 15L which isn't terrible for a section where Bank is the clear strong side.

    I'm presenting it because it is effective, and is the foundation of what many players look at.
     
  19. saintpreaks

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    I had brief success with this method but quickly failed. I aimed for 3 wins and 1 loss when entering the shoe and played in very short sessions. However, I ended up failing. I naturally passed after long series of B or P, but I couldn’t prevent sudden losing streaks. I also tried stopping after 3 consecutive losses with virtual bets and switching tables, but that failed as well. I tried flat betting strategies like 1111, 2222, and 333, and also tried the Super Martingale system, but they all failed. With flat betting, if I couldn't recover quickly, my funds would eventually deplete. It seems impossible to win. I had hope, but it was shattered.
     
  20. saintpreaks

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    I had the same experience. It seems that the key to this method is whether you can catch the long streak series or not. If you catch the streak, you win; if not, you end up alternating between wins and losses, with more losses leading to defeat. This especially happens in situations where the trend moves sideways. Even if you stop or use virtual betting, you still face sudden situations.
     

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